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June 5th, 2011, 03:57 AM   #81
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Well the 20sec penalty for Zarco is a farce IMO.

What are race direction trying to do? ENCOURAGE RIDERS NOT TO RACE?

Fair enough simmo last time out was out of order, But that move by Zarco was a touch of class.

He lined it up out of penultimate corner and nailed Terol fair & square.

It was Terols own fault for leaving the door open for Zarco to go for.

MOTO GP is fast becoming a farce



Lets see what they can fix (that aint broken) in moto2.


Bullshit. He leant on him and ran him right of the track. That is not class that is gutless, unprofessional and down right dangerous. I would say it is dipping into race suspension territory. 20 sec was a let off light penalty.
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Bullshit. He leant on him and ran him right of the track. That is not class that is gutless, unprofessional and down right dangerous. I would say it is dipping into race suspension territory. 20 sec was a let off light penalty.


If he hadn't left the gap Zarco wouldn't have had the chance to be there in the first place.

weve seen others squeezed of track before with no penalties before now.

It appears to be all change since le mans & the simo pedro clash, almost as if race direction are trying to justify the penalty they imposed there.

Whats the odds this season sees the most penalties imposed?
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Bullshit. He leant on him and ran him right of the track. That is not class that is gutless, unprofessional and down right dangerous. I would say it is dipping into race suspension territory. 20 sec was a let off light penalty.


MA My appologies first time round I did not see the elbows by Zarco when they came onto the straight.

Just had another peek to make sure and now agree it was a dangerous move.
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It was a fucking joke total fail by race direction!
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Bullshit penalty, totally ruined the race and makes a mockery of the sport. I am massively disappointed. Yes Zarco didn't give any room at all, it was a pretty harsh move but it wasn't nearly as bad as what Folger did to Faubel earlier in the race or many other moves that happen regularly. They could have given him a talking to afterwards but tampering with race results for that its pathetic.
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Bullshit penalty, totally ruined the race and makes a mockery of the sport. I am massively disappointed. Yes Zarco didn't give any room at all, it was a pretty harsh move but it wasn't nearly as bad as what Folger did to Faubel earlier in the race or many other moves that happen regularly. They could have given him a talking to afterwards but tampering with race results for that its pathetic.
I wouldn't say Folger's move was worse than Zarco's. I thought they were about even. If you're going to penalize one, you've got to penalize them all. Another reason they should've let Simoncelli well alone in Le Mans. I'll be interested to see what they do to Sofuoglu.
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I wouldn't say Folger's move was worse than Zarco's. I thought they were about even. If you're going to penalize one, you've got to penalize them all. Another reason they should've let Simoncelli well alone in Le Mans. I'll be interested to see what they do to Sofuoglu.


I agree, they have to be consistend at the very least. I would have thought moving over on someone on the brakes is more dangerous than the exit of the corner, but i suppose if they are penalising one they should penalise all. I'm a bit worried about it really if they penalise Kenan as well, it's getting ridiculous. Although i think it'll pass like when they got heavy handed following on from Kato's accident. They'll dish out a few penalties to remind the riders that they are there and will act, then go quiet again and let them get on with it.... I hope
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I'm not sure how Race Direction can justify a penalty while being interviewed about previous incidents saying they were fair play. I'd accept them if they went back and said, yeah, those previous incidents, we fucked up, we should have issued penalties. They can start with Jerez 05 which was worse than what we saw this weekend. Not to mention Jerez 11. I don't mind penalties if they are going to do it consistently, the thing is its arbitrary. I suppose the rules go something like this, if you're Spanish or Italian, you get the right of way. If you're Rossi, everybody get out of the way. Parc Ferme was a cluster fuck.



About the elbow, its part of body English, same as when Biaggi did it, looks bad, but its only "looks" bad, no intent, get over it.
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I have to say Zarcos move was way worse. His intent was clearly to run terol of track. The others were bonehead moves or imbition over talent maneuvers. blocking him wide was fine but the little push off was completely unnecessary.
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I agree, they have to be consistend at the very least. I would have thought moving over on someone on the brakes is more dangerous than the exit of the corner, but i suppose if they are penalising one they should penalise all. I'm a bit worried about it really if they penalise Kenan as well, it's getting ridiculous. Although i think it'll pass like when they got heavy handed following on from Kato's accident. They'll dish out a few penalties to remind the riders that they are there and will act, then go quiet again and let them get on with it.... I hope


I cant say anything bout the Kato accident wasn't watching then .

But sure hope your right about letting them get on with it Tom
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