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May 4th, 2017, 06:11 PM   #71
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Generation Snowflake, or Snowflake Generation, is a term used to characterize young adults as being more prone to taking offence and less resilient than previous generations, or as being too emotionally vulnerable to cope with views that challenge their own.
Sound like anyone we know
Snowflake. That's the latest Fox News/Breitbart code word to describe forward thinking progressives and educated people who don't subscribe to neanderthal standards of White Nationalist thugs who want to bring back Jim Crow, who live in fear their children will grow up to be tolerant and egalitarian. In years past there have always been codewords, like "Four Eyes" used to insult people of learning, because education is antithetical to close-minded, fear-based tribalism that bonds together ignorant porch-monkeys whose motto is Guns and Blacks in their place; Guns in the house and Blacks in prison. "New York Elitists" is another code-word for Jews; so ironic for all the Good White Christians who claim to follow Christ, a Jew from Nazareth; especially when they burn crosses and wear pointy headed robes in dumb imitation of Spanish Christians who originated the look; but then Klan types aren't known for awareness of European history or culture in general.

Yeah... there are some college kids who are knee-jerk liberals who are intolerant of hate speech and unchecked police violence - but at least they aspire to create a better, more tolerant and empathetic world - rather than a backwards culture of fear and small-minded bigotry.

I've lived in your world and I don't like it. Not because I'm not all John Wayne. It's just fucking ugly. As a kid I was on a bus going to a swimming hole in North Carolina and your white Christian brethren came out a shot our bus full of holes. Not one child on that bus was older than 11 years old - but the local Klan tried to murder them because there were white and black children on the bus. I'm sure when they recounted this at the local bar they painted themselves as pull yourself up by the bootstraps, all-American do-it-yourself pioneers.

In Florida Klan assholes ran off the road and chased me and a black girl into ditch. We were 12 and 13 years old. More manly white Christian heroes.

That same month the Klan came in 20 cars and tried run over black and white students at the school, poured gas into our swamp, set it on fire, stabbed a teacher and burned down our gym. The work of more righteous Southern white Christians.

My opinions aren't the result of an overactive imagination or being thin-skinned or overly sensitive or too educated or being mislead by lefty Jewish newspapers. I've been in your world and it's really filled with ugliness and misery.
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Generation Snowflake, or Snowflake Generation, is a term used to characterize young adults as being more prone to taking offence and less resilient than previous generations, or as being too emotionally vulnerable to cope with views that challenge their own.
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It's funny, because that is exactly what your parents generation said about your generation.
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I found the article interesting but overall a shitty thing for him to publish.

Yes, we all want to know the inside scoop on these things but the article shows it's nothing special after all, just someone who can't cope on all fronts as you must to be champion.

It's a fucking kid, don't publish a story that yanks his pants down and tells everyone he's no good and never will be.

And then you send it to him and ask for a comment. A fucking kid, what do you think he's going to say when he reads an article that's about to be published making him look like a loser.

And Krop gets to publish what he wants, if he wants. The kid doesn't. Yes, you'll publish his childish retort but what if he said, "I don't give a shit what you think, Krop. You're a mediocre writer spurred on to delusions of grandeur by your ever-fellating readers."? Would he publish that? Maybe. If he wanted to. But he's sure going to publish his hit piece, as he wants it.

So, it just seems shitty.

And I also think it's easy for him to publish such a negative article about a nobody rider. Where's a similar article about an important rider? Oh, no, that might lose him any access.

Where's the integrity now?

My two cents.
Spot on.

Kropo could have had a novel's worth of material after Sepang 15. He had countless opportunities to take VR to task in press conferences, he repeatedly chickenshitted out, in his defense, so did all the other reporter's in the room. Here he takes a young man's questionable decision, puts it under a microscope, then if that weren't enough, projects his own unsubstantiated interpretation of the particulars. (No interview by Kent here). Where are the names to attach to these faceless rumors and paddock gossip? Put them on blast Kropo. Only Kent's name is splattered. Most of this opinion piece is conjecture and projection.


The GP media shit on Stoner too, publishing cowardly rumors of Stoner's supposed lacking of mental toughness during the so called "mystery illness". Were the names of these paddock detractors published? Oh yeah, they said their bullshit under the cowardly cover of anonymity. This media corps contributed to this narrative, of which Krops was a mild participant, given the overwhelming fanbase of boppers looking to disparage Casey at any opportunity when the Australian was out for recovery; and rumors flew that he might never come back, rumors that were bullshit yet published anyway. It's practically impossible to strike the record once the negative impression has been made. The journalistic integrity has not been very high in GP. Then when CS retired Krops was practically in tears, realizing what the sport had shit away thanks in part to the media that disseminated VR's standard villainization message of which Krops had at best inadvertently carried (though I'll give him credit for later correcting). Sure, Krops is one of the better bloggers out there, and I'll credit him for not being a full blown Mat Oxley, but let's not forget the media's weaponization of VR's narratives and the skewing upon the sport.

Where was Krops scathing opinion piece on Maverick Viñalez when he similarly shitcanned his team and refused to race? I must have missed the article titled: Petulant Maverick Viñalez will never ride in MotoGP.

I almost can't believe Krops sent this garbage to assure himself Kent had read it. Reminds me of the reporter who chased down Eli Tomac after a day to forget. Hi there, you just shit away your career, what are your thoughts? Here's the disgusting irony, if any member here had written such a thing about Kent on Krop's comments section or his forum, you'd be summarily banned! Let that sink in for a moment.

Krops post is a low point of an otherwise decent GP blogger site, which I have read for many years. Some of the stuff he's publishing lately is head shaking stuff, like his obvious apology and spin attempt at Rossi’s latest antic at COTA, not only failing to acknowledge how the Cult of Rossi has turned the act of 'racing' on its head, VR's cutting the track another example of this paradigm shift, notwithstanding going so far as to say it wasn't a "penalty" (an obvious action by race direction for our consumption and optics indicated by the miniscule .3 sec penalty) but rather according to Krops all of us gullible ignorant spectators should just perceive it as a mere "time correction", cleansed of responsibility.

Kropo left this forum because as he admitted, the challenges to his opinions made him suffer from distress. No similar thought was spared then at the prospect of how a young man like Danny Kent, still at his development in career, might feel reading a one sided published account of the moment his career suffered its supposed demise? Shame on you Krops. This is the kind of shit that I'd expect from the dubious Spanish/Italian media you've disparaged here on this forum. No wonder Marc Marquez said of Rossi, that he weaponized the media effectively, because ya'll willing to publish tabloid click bait "journalism". Employ the same standard you used to publish this about Kent and let us all give our opinions on your site about other rider's mental toughness, remind me how many times Rossi threaten to quit...and link me to the articles you wrote about how this reflected his mental weakness, how about the integrity (or lack there) of the organizers to prop up riders, surely there's material there to shit on a rider getting an artificial lifeline, direct me to the Cal Crutchlow Ducati quitter he'll never ride again article you wrote then, or the bullshit that is race direction, it's got to yield plenty of weak mind material there, how about Michelin's attempts at tire manipulation that you've dismissed as mere conspiracy to explain away a group of riders standing up against it at Argentina, such weak minds; because this Danny Kent piece flies in the face of your supposed sense of journalistic integrity by shitting on his mental toughness and commitment based on what amounts to your imagination. If 90% of racing is between the ears to explain Kent's failure; therefore, this should explains why Rossi went from winning on the M1 to failure on the Ducati, surely you wrote an article about how mentally weak Rossi was for two years? Maverick becoming an alien coinciding with his move to the factory M1, mental leap? The fall of Lorenzo's winning ways to midpack on the GP17, by your Kent standard, Lorenzo should go see a shrink, because obviously their change in fortunes is 90% mental. Come back to the forum and face the heat of having your takes challenged, in the same way Danny Kent now has this shit published about him by a prominent media figure such as yourself. It's not the same as a nobody twitter twat or forum jockey member posting some fan reaction, your words have actual consequence. Am I being harsh Krops? Perhaps. Maybe it's a compliment that I hold you to a higher standard. Maybe I'm just a blowhard to be dismissed. I do realize that your job is difficult and complex, treading a thin line of reporting on the subjects for which you are embedded...as opposed to in bed.

(Edited for grammar and clarity, I hope)
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That applies to both sides. With all the information available, people forgot to think for themselves. They pick the information source which aligns with their own and regurgitate whatever they heard/saw on such source. We all know media of both sides are totally biased because that bias caters to their target audience anyway. Otherwise they lose the sponsors putting the ads and commercials. Some of commentators are saying things just because that's their job. They actually don't believe in those "values" their station is representing. Duh.

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The death knell of Obama Care?

Trump scores healthcare victory in House - BBC News

The fact that the bill has not yet being examined by the CBO means that it doesn't have a "CBO score", so does not qualify for "reconciliation rules" in the senate...and therefore will likely die at the hands of a filibuster. Guess we'll find out.


Meanwhile...

Donald Trump likes to read 'The Snake' at his rallies. The author's family wants him to stop. - Chicago Tribune

Trump is reading a poem called "The Snake" to US crowds. And he attempts to explain the metaphors, too.

It's about a charitable women who takes in an ailing snake, who then turns on her. And it ends: "you silly woman, you knew damn well I was a snake before you let me in"

Trump explains the metaphor is about terrorism. (The original poem is, however, by a black guy who rejected Communism stating he's "too black to be red". But small matter coming from an administration that employs this man as it's mouthpiece...

According to Krop, Kent-the_mouth_of_sauron.jpg

Sorry...

According to Krop, Kent-sean-spicer-apologizes-holocaust-remarks-amid-criticism-us-israeli-jews-620x350.jpg

And since Trump has spoken about needing to solve the "Muslim problem" it's clear who he's talking about. And is such is eerily similar to remarks about the "Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy" seventy-five years ago.

Trump also now publishes a list of crimes committed by immigrants reminiscent of the Nazi's declaration 'Jews are criminal by disposition. The Jews are not a nation like other nations but bearers of hereditary criminality.'

As expected, his domestic policy must have an harrowing effect on lives of large swathes of his population - who he deems to be a "problem".

In other news, as pledged, the EPA has removed information on climate change from its website - which is what happens when politicians and conspiracy theorists (or in this case both) attempt to do 'science'.

The earth isn't warming they say - and here's a picture of a snowflake to prove it...

According to Krop, Kent-danny_kent_moto2-2015.jpg
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The death knell of Obama Care?

Trump scores healthcare victory in House - BBC News

The fact that the bill has not yet being examined by the CBO means that it doesn't have a "CBO score", so does not qualify for "reconciliation rules" in the senate...and therefore will likely die at the hands of a filibuster. Guess we'll find out.


Meanwhile...

Donald Trump likes to read 'The Snake' at his rallies. The author's family wants him to stop. - Chicago Tribune

Trump is reading a poem called "The Snake" to US crowds. And he attempts to explain the metaphors, too.

It's about a charitable women who takes in an ailing snake, who then turns on her. And it ends: "you silly woman, you knew damn well I was a snake before you let me in"

Trump explains the metaphor is about terrorism. (The original poem is, however, by a black guy who rejected Communism stating he's "too black to be red". But small matter coming from an administration that employs this man as it's mouthpiece...

Attachment 12488

Sorry...

Attachment 12490

And since Trump has spoken about needing to solve the "Muslim problem" it's clear who he's talking about. And is such is eerily similar to remarks about the "Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy" seventy-five years ago.

Trump also now publishes a list of crimes committed by immigrants reminiscent of the Nazi's declaration 'Jews are criminal by disposition. The Jews are not a nation like other nations but bearers of hereditary criminality.'

As expected, his domestic policy must have an harrowing effect on lives of large swathes of his population - who he deems to be a "problem".

In other news, as pledged, the EPA has removed information on climate change from its website - which is what happens when politicians and conspiracy theorists (or in this case both) attempt to do 'science'.

The earth isn't warming they say - and here's a picture of a snowflake to prove it...

Attachment 12489
One a house painter and the other a failed casino owner; reminding us again about the banality of evil.
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Spot on.

Kropo could have had a novel's worth of material after Sepang 15. He had countless opportunities to take VR to task in press conferences, he repeatedly chickenshitted out, in his defense, so did all the other reporter's in the room. Here he takes a young man's questionable decision, puts it under a microscope, then if that weren't enough, projects his own bullshit interpretation of the particulars. Where are the names to attach to these faceless rumors and paddock gossip? Put them on blast Kropo. Only Kent's name is splattered. Most of this opinion piece is conjecture and projection.


The GP media shit on Stoner too, publishing cowardly rumors of Stoner's supposed lacking of mental toughness during the so called "mystery illness". Were the names of these detractors published? Oh yeah, they said their bullshit under the cowardly cover of anonymity. This media corps contributed to this narrative, of which Krops was a mild participant, given the overwhelming fanbase of boppers looking to disparage Casey at any opportunity when the Australian was out for recovery and rumors flew that he might never come back, rumors that were bullshit but published anyway. The journalistic integrity has not been very high in GP. Then when CS retired Krops was practically in tears, realizing what the sport had shit away thanks to the media that carried VR's standard villainization messaging of which Krops had at best inadvertently carried (though I'll give him credit for later correcting). Sure, Krops is one of the better bloggers out there, and I'll credit him for not being a full blown Mat Oxley, but let's not forget the media's weaponization of VR's narratives.

Where was Krops scathing opinion piece on Maverick Viñalez when he similarly shitcanned his team and refused to race? I must have missed the article titled: Petulant Maverick Viñalez will never ride in MotoGP.

I almost can't believe Krops sent this garbage to assure himself Kent had read it. Reminds me of the reporter who chased down Eli Tomac after a day to forget. Hi there, you just shit away your career, what are your thoughts? Here's the disgusting irony, if any member here had written such a thing about Kent on Krop's comments section or his forum, you'd be summarily banned! Let that sink in for a moment.

Krops post is a low point of an otherwise decent GP blogger site, which I have read for many years. Some of the stuff he's publishing lately is head shaking, like his obvious apology and spin attempt at Rossi’s latest antic at COTA, not only failing to acknowledge how the Cult of Rossi has turned the act of 'racing' on its head, VR's cutting the track another example of this paradigm shift, notwithstanding going so far as to say it wasn't a "penalty" (an obvious act by race direction for consumption and optics purposes represented by a miniscule. 3 sec consequence) but rather all of us gullible ignorant spectators should just perceive it as a "time correction".

Kropo left this forum because as he admitted, the challenges to his opinions made him suffer from distress. No similar thought was spared then at the prospect of how a young man like Danny Kent, still at his development in career, might feel reading a one sided published account of the moment his career suffered its supposed demised? Shame on you Krops. This is the kind of shit that I'd expect from the dubious Spanish/Italian media you've disparaged here on this forum. No wonder Marc Marquez said of Rossi, that he weaponized the media effectively, because ya'll willing to publish tabloid click bait "journalism". Use the same standard you used to publish this about Kent and let us all give our opinions on your site about other rider's mental toughness, remind me how many times Rossi threaten to quit...and link me the articles you wrote about how this reflected his mental weakness, how about the integrity (or lack) of the organizers to prop up riders, surely there's material there to shit on a rider needing a lifeline, direct me to the Cal Crutchlow Ducati quitter he'll never ride again article you wrote then, or the bullshit that is race direction plenty of weak mind material there, Michelin's attempts at tire manipulation that you've dismissed as mere conspiracy to explain away a group of rider standing up against it at Argentina, because this Danny Kent piece flys in the face of your supposed sense of journalistic integrity by shitting on his mental toughness and commitment. If 90% of racing is between the ears to explain Kent's failure; therefore, this explains why Rossi went from winning on the M1 to failure on the Ducati, surely you wrote an article about how mentally weak Rossi was for two years? Maverick becoming an alien coinciding with his move to the factory M1, mental leap? The fall of Lorenzo's winning ways to midpack on the GP17, by your Kent standard, Lorenzo should go see a shrink, because obviously there change in fortunes is 90% mental. Come back to the forum and face the heat of having your takes challenged, in the same way Danny Kent now has this shit published about him by a prominent media figure such as yourself. It's not the same as a nobody twitter twat or forum jockey member posting some fan reaction, your words have actual consequence. Am I being harsh Krops? Perhaps. Maybe it's a compliment that I hold you to a higher standard. I do realize that your job is difficult and complex, treading a thin line of reporting on the subjects for which you are embedded...as opposed to in bed.
Good post fm MadMex and MadMax
Other than your Onion Spin on Stoners career I agree with your Kropo take. I still find it quite ludicrous that some believe that post 2006, Stoner had any sort of disadvantage. He had bags of money and factory bikes capable of championships. Sometimes I think you boners forget that, the annals of history, record Stoner as the winner of his era.
I wouldn't have had a problem with the article if Krap had a history of writing pieces like this about other riders. He will walk away unscathed because Kent is unemployed, has noone to back him up. Pretty pathetic and great point that if you wrote this on motochickenshit, it would be summarily deleted

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Thanks for this post MotoKitty! I love the Oatmeal and I hadn't seen this one. Also it led me to a great podcast on the subject. I'm a bit of a podcast dork, so thanks for the intro.

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Thanks for this post MotoKitty! I love the Oatmeal and I hadn't seen this one. Also it led me to a great podcast on the subject. I'm a bit of a podcast dork, so thanks for the intro.

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That applies to both sides. With all the information available, people forgot to think for themselves. They pick the information source which aligns with their own and regurgitate whatever they heard/saw on such source. We all know media of both sides are totally biased because that bias caters to their target audience anyway. Otherwise they lose the sponsors putting the ads and commercials. Some of commentators are saying things just because that's their job. They actually don't believe in those "values" their station is representing. Duh.

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Oh I agree with you on that. It's the way of the world now, and probably the worst aspect of the internet.
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