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January 12th, 2009, 11:26 AM   #11
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For some reason my stupid ass can't seem to imbed you tube video's anymore so here's the link to the Lawrence vs Villo scrap
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Looks like a two horse race between Stewart and Reed with Grant playing the spoiler. Villopoto is no different than anyone else stepping into the big class, with maybe the exception he hasn't self destructed trying to ride over his head. It takes time to tame those 450's much less trying to tame them on a Supercross track.
Looks to be a good 2009 SX season nonethless.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L8Braker @ Jan 12 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Looks like a two horse race between Stewart and Reed with Grant playing the spoiler. Villopoto is no different than anyone else stepping into the big class, with maybe the exception he hasn't self destructed trying to ride over his head. It takes time to tame those 450's much less trying to tame them on a Supercross track.
Looks to be a good 2009 SX season nonethless.

I think he already did
The announcers said he had as bad of a crash as they'd ever seen in practice.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 12 2009, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>~4 brands in top 4 finishers, looks like we have some parity (though brand is much less a factor in SX than in other motorcycle disciplines. All one needs to know about manufacture brands is to look at the switches from the top riders in the last decade: McGrath, Carmichael, Steward, Reed. After the change there was no effect on which the top guy was at the time).
McGrath lost the title when he switched from Honda to Suzuki to Jeff Emig. MC was dominant with Honda and Emig was never able to do much in SX after that title so I would say the Suzuki hindered him quite a bit. But I agree, the bike doesn't account for as much in MX.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jan 12 2009, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>McGrath lost the title when he switched from Honda to Suzuki to Jeff Emig.
Dude, the switch was to the weakest team in SX at the time. And even then he won a grip of races that year (97). He lost the title by a very few points to Jeff, which could have been easily chalked up to a few crashes. But to say a switch cost him a title is at best hard to argue (I will give you a few mechanicals). McGrath had just won two consecutive titles in 125. He continued his dominance and string of wins in the big class. Sure Emig interrupted the string for one brief moment in 97, but the switch of brands had little to do with it (IMHO). Just think about when he switched to Yamaha, did his dominance change? NO way, he won as many as he did with Honda. McGrath came in stomping and won his rookie year (a feat never matched). He continued to stomp on the class after that brief interruption in a year that saw him crash out (rider error, NOT so much bike issue). Though I will agree that it was a less reliable bike to the Honda. But that was 10 years ago, in todays bikes, you can hardly find the difference. I mean, look at Carmichael's switch. You're not gonna say he lost the title to Reed because he dropped Honda for Suzuki are you? The brand switch had nothing to do with his injury that gifted Reed a title. Ricky ran three brands, Kawasaki, Honda, and Suzuki, and kept on stomping the same.


Which BTW, you reminded me of a good point Emig made during this weekend's race when Ralph Sheeham (or however you spell his name) turned his attention to the season finally in Vegas. Jeff said it was waaaay too early to even think about. Saying, SX/MX is like no other in that the element of uncertainly is present in every moment much more than other motor racing because of the high element of peril in single event. I thought about that for a moment and realize I'm guilty of signing off the season too early sometimes. Look at last year, I thought for sure Reed would easily win it (a gift from Bubba's injury) but it came down to the wire. Anyway, just adding to your point that yes, we are in for a good season, albeit a "2 horse season", fingers crossed.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 12 2009, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dude, the switch was to the weakest team in SX at the time. And even then he won a grip of races that year (97). He lost the title by a very few points to Jeff, which could have been easily chalked up to a few crashes. But to say a switch cost him a title is at best hard to argue (I will give you a few mechanicals). McGrath had just won two consecutive titles in 125. He continued his dominance and string of wins in the big class. Sure Emig interrupted the string for one brief moment in 97, but the switch of brands had little to do with it (IMHO). Just think about when he switched to Yamaha, did his dominance change? NO way, he won as many as he did with Honda. McGrath came in stomping and won his rookie year (a feat never matched). He continued to stomp on the class after that brief interruption in a year that saw him crash out (rider error, NOT so much bike issue). Though I will agree that it was a less reliable bike to the Honda. But that was 10 years ago, in todays bikes, you can hardly find the difference. I mean, look at Carmichael's switch. You're not gonna say he lost the title to Reed because he dropped Honda for Suzuki are you? The brand switch had nothing to do with his injury that gifted Reed a title. Ricky ran three brands, Kawasaki, Honda, and Suzuki, and kept on stomping the same.
Not sure why you're bringing up the 125 titles as they were in '91 and '92? Then he went on to win four titles for Honda, taking 14 of 15 rounds in '96 before he switched. The Suzuki team was not as strong as Honda, if I remember correctly it was being run by the Troy squad. Additionally, McGrath missed considerable off season test time. Again, if I remember correctly it was because he was injured. Kind of funny that it coincided with his Suzuki signing which saw his contract allow him to freestyle, which he enjoyed. He made a few FMX films in his season with Suzuki, got hurt, missed time and as a result the Suzuki wasn't where it needed to be, IMO.

MC is my all time favorite MX rider and always will be, but they guy was a playboy. Sure, he busted his ass for SX but he did whatever he wanted in the summer months and it cost him the '97 SX title. Like I said, he narrowly lost out to Emig who never did much in SX before his title nor since.
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speaking of Suzuki, it was said for years that Suzuki was the place to go to end your career as so many struggled after making the jump to the zooks. I remember the day Carmichael signed with them and one of my buddies said stick a fork in him he's done. I think Ricky proved riding Kawasaki, Honda, and finally Suzuki, it's not so much the bike as it is work ethic. Ricky out worked everyone else in the game when he was racing, and probably would still be on top of the game if he were still competing.
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I'm wondering if a change in manufacturers may have already hurt Stewart.
He was unable to start the bike after he went down in Anahiem. He tried for a while
but finally had to give up.
The Yamaha and the KTM are the only bikes left not using fuel injection.
The carbeurated bike is much harder to start after it stalls. You could see how quickly
Villopoto started his bike after he lowsided.
I know Stewarts bike crashed a lot harder and maybe it was other factors that caused it not to start but it's clear that if he had been able to get it going he had enough time to get back into the race and score some points.
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