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September 5th, 2014, 06:59 AM   #11
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with MotoGP and world SBK making 3 stops in the US drawing in the majority of race fans, its going to be hard for the AMA to draw those same fans back out for a smaller event. from a marketing perspective, is there really a benefit for the manufactures to get involved?
I think the XR1200 series works, not only is it a cheap series to run in, the brand loyalty of harley davidson is second to none. of course one might ask is it a good series to develop young riders with? I have actually read more articles on this series, because its covered in a wider range of media publications.
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-Moto 2 and Moto 3 seem like a bad idea for US teams. Supersport and superstock 600 come with potential manufacturer support, since the factories want to use US racing to sell bikes. Nobody is selling Moto 2 or 3 bikes to the public. US teams aren't going to attract Spanish and Italian sponsors the way CEV and world-level teams do. But US teams could realistically expect support from the factories whose products they represent on the track. Forget the Moto 2/3 idea and run supersport. Maybe a class for small bikes like the Ninja 250 and little CBR would be an alternative to Moto 3 (or maybe just the XR1200 series).
This is the exact strategy that was followed by DMG and has proven to be shit.
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with MotoGP and world SBK making 3 stops in the US drawing in the majority of race fans, its going to be hard for the AMA to draw those same fans back out for a smaller event. from a marketing perspective, is there really a benefit for the manufactures to get involved?
I think the XR1200 series works, not only is it a cheap series to run in, the brand loyalty of harley davidson is second to none. of course one might ask is it a good series to develop young riders with? I have actually read more articles on this series, because its covered in a wider range of media publications.
I dont know Hollywood. Depends on what you consider working. The sport bike crowd leaves to go home when they run the 1200's as the last race of a weekend, and the Harley guys are not there to begin with. i stuck around and watched it once. At first it almost comical how slow they are, i lost interest in the race in about 5 laps. Somethings just were not meant to be raced.
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This is the exact strategy that was followed by DMG and has proven to be shit.
That is not the exact strategy DMG followed.

This formula was followed before DMG. The factories/distributors believed in it too. What DMG did was run off most factory support with its technical changes.

What's the advantage over Moto GP and WSBK? I cannot say for sure, but it certainly gives a brand another chance at success. For example, Suzuki is not likely to find glory in Moto GP soon (if ever). Success in American national road racing would be good exposure for sport bike buyers.
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September 7th, 2014, 07:19 PM   #15
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The question to ask when 'designing' what classes to run is : what do we want to get out of this gig? Please/pander to the factories; please/pander to the fans; prep talented youngsters for international competition... just make shitloads of cash!! Each outcome requires a different strategy. It will be interesting to see which direction they take.
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The question to ask when 'designing' what classes to run is : what do we want to get out of this gig? Please/pander to the factories; please/pander to the fans; prep talented youngsters for international competition... just make shitloads of cash!! Each outcome requires a different strategy. It will be interesting to see which direction they take.
That is a tough question. I would say pander to the factories. The Japanese factories made the US racing scene. Their leaving is what made it so sorry the last few years. Factories also drive rider advancement...
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It's better than keeping DMG at the helm, but I'm not optimistic. The decline of Superbike racing is directly correlated to the 1000s, and the new 4-stroke MotoGP regulations. The 1000s are too expensive to prep for racing, and they are much less spectacular than GP prototypes.

Unless KRAVE do something innovative (hint: not performance balancing), AMA SBK will continue to decline.

First thing I would try to do is sell/give rights to a mobile carrier. If people can watch on their phones at the track and on-demand, the sport will be in position to gain viewers.
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God read here: Cycle News - Cycle News 2014 Issue 39 September 30
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